Lancashire's PCN Authority - Parkwise

[Neal]

If you have beed issued with a PCN or have any general questions about Parking Enforcement, please feel free to ask in here.

You can also visit the ParkWise website on Parkwise - Parking Enforcement Changes in Lancashire or the independant NPAS organistation on National Parking Adjudication Service

[janet]

I can't drive neal.

[Neal]

You can also seek help from Mr. Baker who owns Falcon and Foxglove estate agency in Standish Street, Burnley and he has started his own company, ParkWiseR.

Very nice bloke and I had many a good conversation with him whilst wandering around that area.

From today's Burnley Express:

http://www.burnleytoday.co.uk/ViewAr...icleID=1133410

ARE OUR PARKING TICKETS ILLEGAL?
HUNDREDS of parking tickets handed out to disgruntled motorists who outstayed their welcome on the town's car parks could be illegal.
And, as council officers investigate the claim which relates to a technicality over the wording on local traffic regulation orders prior to August 22nd, a call has gone out for motorists wrongly penalised by Parkwise wardens to get their money back automatically.
Parking campaigner Mr Howard Baker, who was featured in last week's Express at the launch of his ParkwiseR company to help beleaguered motorists, brought the matter into the public eye at a meeting of Burnley Council on Wednesday night.
And yesterday he pledged that this was "only the start" of his battle as he had been inundated with calls from all over East Lancashire following the launch of his business and was now to turn his attention to the issue of yellow lines.
At the meeting he was thanked by council leader Coun. Stuart Caddy and his colleague, Coun. Peter Kenyon, for the "tremendous work" he had put into the investigations, which also showed up that tickets issued on a stretch of Bankfield were also "illegal".
Coun. Caddy said it had not been established how many tickets were involved but the matter would be brought to a future committee meeting when all the facts and figures were established.
"The council and town should be grateful to Mr Baker for bringing the matter to our attention," added Coun. Kenyon. "A number of those tickets issued by Parkwise were illegally issued because they did not have a sound basis in the traffic regulation orders in force."
And he pressed for motorists who have been issued with £60 fines after their pay and display tickets have expired to be automatically reimbursed, rather than them having to go through the "time consuming and stressful" individual appeals process as "a show of justice".
Mr Baker, who owns Falcon and Foxglove estate agency in Standish Street, told members: "People in Burnley are law-abiding and would rather avoid confrontation with the law."

[Brainstormer]

I don't live in Burnley (reasons witheld due to law enforcement :Mysteriou ) but when I did visit to go shopping I used to park my shaloppee cart in St. Peters car park which I note has recently been demolished?

Reason I used St. Peters multi-storey is because it that I was usually guarenteed a parking space.

For some reason, drivers visiting Burnley either didn't know of St. Peters car park or (as I believe) were too lazy to walk 60 metres to the shoping centre/mall and rather wait 15 minutes holding up other traffic so they could get a little closer to the mall.

Parkwise is a money spinning scam literrated by someone (for want of a better term) at HQ in Preston. I'm happy to see someone has actually stood up and created a scheme that watches these devious parkwise wardens.

Burnley Council didn't realise the problem of parking, when the centre (St. james st.) was pedestrianised. Reason being there were simply not as many vehicles parking (i.e. shoppers visited on public transport).

As the volume of traffic/shoppers increased due to more car owners, there was a dire need to host the shoppers vehicles whilst they shopped.

There was simply nowhere close enough to the centre then to park.
The layout of the centre was poorly designed and many Burnley folk were not given a chance to voice their opinion on HOW the centre should be organised and planned.

The cinema was closed down and the fountain was replaced with what I can see is an expensive 'smelly cafe' in a very enclosed area.

I'm amazed to this day how ignorent some drivers are regarding parking places, especially allocated bays for disabled or drivers with babies/children. Many time I have literally blown my top at people parking in disabled bays in supermarkets simply to use the ATM's. And it gets worse...

We must ask ourselves why a scheme such as Parkwise came about?

The revenue from the other such schemes paved the way, roadside speed cameras being one insult, fortunately, the AA and such at least made sure these cameras were painted yellow and made visible giving motorists a chance to slow down before being fined.

Let's take a look at Nelson, not exactly a thriving market town. The marketeers there have recently been told their leasholds are gone and they are to be relocated.

Parking has NEVER been a problem in Nelson with many car parks being free as long as a 'parking badge' was displayed in the car window.

In step Parkwise:

1. FINED: in a FREE car park for forgetting to display a parking badge
2. FINED: elderly disabled lady for displaying disabled badge wrong way round
3. FINED: on a public highway for overstaying by 3 minutes
4. FINED: for parking 3 inches outside parking line zone (even though no other vehicle was in front OR behind the vehicle)
5. FINED: for parking the wrong way round on a one way street (even though the vehicle was only ready to reverse)

Nelson is already a Ghost town, Parkwise simply put the final nail in the coffin of trade. Burnley is heading the same way, the only people planting paid input are those who actually work in the town, i.e. service workers in Asda and such places... SUPERMARKET CITY!

ParkwiseR is welcome, and some Parkwise tickets are ILLEGAL.

But, from my experience of shopping in Burnley, what's needed is a council that can actually 'learn' from past experiences by building Upwards!

Burnley General hospital: Build up a multi-storey (SIMPLE). Don't try stealing the only green land around.

Get off yer bums car drivers, it's only a short walk to the centre.
Having said that, I note that even on the outskirts of burnley center it's difficult to park (poor planning).

I'm unsure why ParkwiseR is actually a busineses/company.
With a litttle hindsight, I'd suggest that any information that would combat the corrupt parkwise scheme would appear as freely available, such as on BurnleyWeb.com

But hey, if it combats county implemented corruption it gets my vote



How To Identify Where A Driver Is From

1. One hand on wheel, one hand on horn: Burnley
2. One hand on wheel, one finger out window: Nelson
3. Both hands on wheel, eyes shut, both feet on brake, quivering in terror: Blackburn
4. One hand on wheel, one hand on newspaper, foot solidly on accelerator: Burnley (again)

[Mattylad]

here, here..
well said that chap!

I had one of those illegal tickets for parking in Bankfield (at the end of Standish ST/Pioneer car park).

I disputed it due to the poor condition of the yellow lines & got it cancelled although I'm sure that there Will be many that have not.

Some (and I mean "some") tickets are fully justified, but Parkwise do go over the top & fail to use both common sense/respect & fairness.

One of the reasons for not using st peters was that it was so far away from anywhere that it was considered unsafe to leave your car there, althoiugh we used it when we needed to.

What Burnley council have also done is to block off any freely available space for parking too, any bits of land that people might be able to use have been blocked off by the council so that people are forced to use the council charged places.

[RocknRollDave]

My girlfriend got a parking ticket for being 5 minutes late when the ticket ran out, shambles...

[Neal]

Make sure it was a full 5 mins from the expired time, ie. If it expired at 15:05:16 the ticket must be issued at 15:10:16 and no sooner. They are supposed to be giving a full 6 mins now for overstays and yellow lines from what i've heard, but this could be wrong.

[jaseyboy]

lol podantic isnt it

[Mattylad]

Yes, Pedantic even :)

I notice ParkwiseR in the paper this weekend, telling everyone about the Bankfield lines problem.

Thing is that they are never specific about exactly what the law says about the broken lines & how exactly they MUST be for the parking enforcment to be correct.

Bit like the IR, keep us in the dark & hope we pay.

[MoonOak]

Dictionary Definition:


war·den (wôrd'n)
n.

1. The chief administrative official of a prison.
2. An official charged with the enforcement of certain laws and regulations: an air raid warden.
3. Chiefly British.
   1. The chief executive official in charge of a port or market.
   2. Any of various crown officers having administrative duties.
   3. One of the governing officials of certain colleges, schools, guilds, or hospitals; a trustee.
4. The chief executive of a borough in certain states.
5. A churchwarden.

Doesn't sound like any of the above....


Depends on which traffic warden you get to the rules too. I was parked behind the Mobility shop in the bays that say "Disabled, reserve for Mobility Shop users" and I came back even though my badge was displayed properly to a Warden trying to ticket me as I didn't have a sign up saying that I was a Mobility user.... I thought the Point that I had a blue badge said it all!!!!!

There again, this is Burnley